WHAAAAAAHT!?!??!?!?
me: Cam?
Cameron: YOU LIKE NEEDTOBREATHE!?!?!??!?!
me: are you okay?
yesss>
?
Cameron: i THOUGHT WE WERE FRIENDS!?!?!?!??
me: is that a problem?
you don't like needtobreathe?
Cameron: THIS IS TWILIGHT ALL OVER AGAIN!?!?!?!?
GAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
12:27 PM NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
me: why not?
Cameron: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
(fuming)
I... put up with twilight, I put up with TFK
12:28 PM me: i happen to think they're great songwriters and have really catchy tunes...I would like an honest, decent, down to earth explanation as to why you despise them?
and TFK for that matter :P
Cameron: ...I PUT UP WITH DMB FOR PETE'S SAKE
me: and DMB
:P
Cameron: WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
sigh
collecting myself
me: :P
Cameron: (or trying)
me: Laughing*
12:29 PM Cameron: alright
me: and I don't like twlight that much...
they were fun when I read them...but I've moved on...
Cameron: YOU READ ALL OF THEM!?!?!??!?
me: yeah like...3 years ago.
Cameron: WHAT!?!?!?!?!?
HOW... THIS IS...
12:30 PM me: on the suggestion of a fine young lady that I know...
Cameron: oh.
me: they were enjoyable...
back before they were huge...
Cameron: that is different
oh well, whatever
me: anyway
Needtobreathe?
Cameron:yes, them
well, to start with, they are terrible
12:31 PM add that to the fact that the guy cannot sing, and you have a disaster
me: because they're southern rock?
Cameron: they are not rock
the are the sou/gospel eqivelent
12:32 PM me: are too...they're just not nu-metal/symphonic/skillet/red type stuff
Cameron: would you want him to sing an acoustic version of any song they sign?
*sing
me: who Needtobreathe?
Cameron: yup
12:33 PM me: sure... I'd love to hear a minimal version of "Don't wait for daylight"
Cameron: (sigh)
I really thought better of you, Tyler
one of your talents and experience
me: http://www.google.com/search?
Cameron: should have easily picked out how sad that bad is
me: no my friend...the kings of leon's new record is bad
Cameron: and I refuse to click that link
me: Needtobreathe is not :P
haha
12:34 PM fair enough
to each his own.
I stand by Bear Rineheart and his songwriting..
Cameron: next you will tell me you like taylor swift
me: come on..
you like the newsboys
Cameron: so?
they are aussies
they were REAL
me: I think they're pretty uncreative/corney :P
Cameron: you see, tyler
12:35 PM everything the newsboys did has been redone. They point is they INVENTED it
they were first
they were the best at their time
they wrote a ton of classic, solid stuff
12:36 PM entertaining angels, million pieces, stay strong,
if you only are talking about what klove plays of them
then you are right, though
me: The Newsboys had influences just like everyone else.
Cameron: but they were their own
me: and so is Needtobreathe :P
Cameron: just like there was nothing like comatose before skillet made it
now you have fools like
say
manic drive
me: Skillet didn't do the comatose sound first...
Cameron: trying to mimic them
12:37 PM and yes they did
me: nooo.
Epica has been doing that same thing since 1991
Cameron: not
even
close
they are rock opera
symphonic rock os totally different
me: not really..
Cameron: yes it is
me: You're arguements are folding back on themselves cam :P
Cameron: is taylor swift any different from needto breathe?
12:38 PM me: sure
Cameron: yes, one is country, the other is soul/gospel
me: Needtobreathe is an alt rock/southern rock band...nothing to do with soul...
Cameron: but if you listen to their songs next to each other, one night argue that they sound VERY similar
me: only gospel they've got comes from their southern roots
Cameron: which is soul haven
12:39 PM me: and they don't...lots of different lyrical content and insturmentation
Needtobreathe has been comapred to a newage U2
not taylor swift :P
Cameron: needtobrethe... like... U2....
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
me: name 5 needtobreathe songs you've listened to
Cameron: HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAH
12:40 PM HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
HIOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOH
HEEHEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
(rolling on the floor
)
me: waiting for an answer to your question
Cameron: um, your question
me: indeed
Cameron: and daylight is coming
12:41 PM washed by the water
perfect? is it called
no, soemthing beatiful
and the rest I don't remember their names
no do I care to
lousy stuff
12:42 PM me: okay so you've heard two needtobreathe songs...
Cameron: three
and more
me: Credibility to your arguements dropping.....
Cameron: you can say that if it makes you feel better
me: I shall
I did :P
Cameron: but the only reason you can is because I am on defensive and you are attacking
me: ha
Cameron: have it your way
12:43 PM me: he
ho
you can say that if it makes you feel better
:P
Cameron: i did
eat it
me: well my friend
I think we're gonna have to disagree on this one...
Cameron: NTB sucks
me: seeing as we can't even argue on the same plane
Fair enough.
have your way...
Cameron: like, SUCKS
12:44 PM me: It's stayin on mah ipod :)
Cameron: I smell victory in the air
me: which is quite an accomplishment
Cameron: not anymore, it sin't
*isn't
sadly
it can hang out with yellowcard, DWP
DMB
TFK
all it stinkin wants
12:45 PM screw it
me: victory is all in the mind of the soldier...however diluted it may be German proverb
Cameron: "the bear who for sees the trap cannot be caught" russian proverb
12:46 PM me: "The bear who likes honey....underestimates the bees* - Whitedude provberb
Cameron: "The bear who likes honey....underestimates the bees*" loser proverb
12:47 PM me: Judge...my opponet is using an ad-hominem logical fallacy...in the entirity of his argumentation
Cameron: Do not remove a fly from your friends forehead by a hatchet: chinese proverb
me: let us then examine whom is getting his head cut off :P
Cameron: dear, diluted tyler, there is no judge, no rule book to save you
me: MEEEEEEE!! AHHHHHHH
I need no savin
Cameron: no army of logic, nothing but what you and I jointly accept to be true
12:48 PM me: for you have not triumphed except in your own site
good thing truth is not deterimed by what we agree upon
:P
Cameron: and you only in yours, friend
me: i seek no triumph and therefor free myself from this conversation :P
Cameron: good truth is something a fallen human is hard pressed to come up with, regardless of the circumstances
me: tis the thrill of the debate which keeps me here :P
Cameron: suit yourself
12:49 PM me: I usually do :P
Cameron: I know
I usually let you
me: you're a good friend :)
Cameron: except for Euker
me: against this no one can speak
Cameron: I never let you off in that
it is my last stand
me: is okay
I can't play Euker
Cameron: you can
me: i'm bad at card games
Cameron: I taught you
12:50 PM and card games involve a sort of logic not found in debate clubs, tyler
me: card games involve probability...not logic...
there's no persuasion in card games..
12:51 PM Cameron: ah, hahaha, that is where you fail
for not only is probability wagered
but also the logic of unearthing the logic behind the other player's movements
me: that's not logic...
Cameron: you must see what drives them
it is not proability
what is it, oh exalted one?
12:52 PM me: probablity treats all men equality
Cameron: This does not
me: # the branch of philosophy that analyzes inference
# reasoned and reasonable judgment; "it made a certain kind of logic"
# the principles that guide reasoning within a given field or situation; "economic logic requires it"; "by the logic of war"
# the system of operations performed by a computer that underlies the machine's representation of logical operations
# a system of reasoning
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/
# reasoned and reasonable judgment; "it made a certain kind of logic"
# the principles that guide reasoning within a given field or situation; "economic logic requires it"; "by the logic of war"
# the system of operations performed by a computer that underlies the machine's representation of logical operations
# a system of reasoning
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/
yes because it is probablity coupled with skill
Cameron: ah yes, now he draws from the liberal arts colleges to save him
me: skill which I don't have :P
12:53 PM Cameron: dear tyler, how many of those professors would make good Euker players?
me: I dunno I havn't met any of them
and it's a dictionary
not a professor
Cameron: this skill requires logic
my dear friend
me: not logic as I am trained in
it requires acute observation skills
Cameron: but a distorted form that si applicable to the game
12:54 PM you must realize that every trade is simply learnign a new language
me: you've got to remember logic's main purpose is for reasoning and persausiong
Cameron: and once you have altered how you see things, you succeed
where is that in the bible?
oh exalted one?
me: yeah well i've never been one for altering my sight.
Cameron: I know
12:55 PM :D
me: it's not...it's simple definitons of english words
Cameron: neither of us are
me: which is probably why we get along so welll
Cameron: english is the ultimate authority of everything?
me: nooo...but in order to use simple words...you have to understand their meaning
Cameron: since when, oh exalted one?
me: Dude
even you have have got to play within the simple rules of language and it's definition
12:56 PM Cameron: this life is not simple, thus simple word do not give its pieces justice
me: you can't through ALL authority to the wind..
then you sir have no grounds upon which you can converse... in any fashion
for you have discredited language itself
Cameron: I have one
me: all you got left is body language :P
Cameron: what if there was another language that sums it more perfectly?
me: which language is that?
Cameron: what if english is lower than the rest?
me: sign language doesn't count
12:57 PM Cameron: ah, dear tyler
me: you've discredited the very nature of language as a whole not simply english
so you lose
Cameron: (and don't tell a deaf person I said this, but sign language is a take off of english
)
you are twisting what I said, oh exalted one
me: stop calling me exahlted one :P
12:58 PM Cameron: you refered to language as simple, yet you only know of two languages, and as such that is all you made reference to
I am speaking in a broader sense, such as say the tongue they use in heaven, and its perfection that we humans simply cannot comprehend
12:59 PM me: yes but I still have faith in language....you decreed all language to be inadequate for this life...therefor elimating all possible possibility of conversing ANd keeping your arguements/statements intact
Cameron: you put your faith in what you only comprehend two of the thousands of its forms?
dear tyler, why?
why do you limit your resoning?
1:00 PM me: see by your own words you are continuing to fold back on your previouis statements
this sir is not a discourse of logic....
it must first follow limitations...
if you were a debator....our rouns would be hillarious
Cameron: I fall back on what I afirmed at the begining, and you consistently assult, oh exalted one
1:01 PM me: and what did you afirm at the beginning oh so consisent one?
Cameron: it is called "consistentsy"
me: pardon me
i'm typing fast
Cameron: I have no idea, and neither do you
me: yes I do...
Cameron: but as far as language goes
I discredited english
1:02 PM me: you affirmed that you did not like Needtobreathe...and decided toattempt to convince me of my error
Cameron: and you have afirmed its abilities, twisted what I said about language in general
me: how we got here....is a good story
Cameron: dear tyler
me: then what disagreement regarding language do we still have?
Cameron: I only attempted to make you realize my disapointment in your tastes
1:03 PM I don't know, you are the assulting force, tyler
me: you're really good at changing sides in the midst of a disscussion....just a side note :P
1:04 PM You would make an Excellent debator....with some formal training
Cameron: I said english does not necessarily animate what this world contains, in the context of our discussion of Eucher
me: You must be the chosen one prophecied
you'll bring order to CCA and NCFCA
Cameron: ha. ha. ha.
no thakn you
you say what happened to Aniken
1:05 PM and I do not value the debate clubs high enough to die giving them balence
only certain members of thier teams
me: tis a shame
you show
so
much
Cameron: really?
me: promise
:P
Cameron: I wonder what would have happened if aniken had so: oh well, I guess I am not a jedi. Later.
1:06 PM you know?
would have been...
me: yeah I catch ya
Cameron: interesting
me: hey I need to get some work done.... :P
lovely chatting with you.
Cameron: me too
agreed
me: Keep up the good work dude
;)
Cameron: (a fine way to pull out of your defeat, I might add)
later
me: facepalm
1:07 PM you're hopeless
Cameron: (you complement me, on saying I have promise, use work as an excuse to leave, and then say I am hopeless
)
pity
me: Goodbye Cameron :)
Cameron: what the inconsistent one said, yeah
later
1:08 PM :D:D:D
"I get so distracted by some people's reactions that I don't see my own faults for what they are. At times it's so self destructive, with no intent or motive, but behind this emotion, there lies a sensible heart..."
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